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    Posted: 21 Oct 2010 at 12:04pm
I have just heard that we may not be insured if teaching children locks, it's in my association syllabus, does anyone know where I stand. My own association say that they never voted on this.
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I have just been advised by the Chairman of the BAB Vincent Sumpter that this rumour is totally untrue and this subject will be discussed at the BAB Executive Meeting on the 22nd of October 2010.
 
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What part is untrue, no insurance or not voted on I need to know if I am insured or not.
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Originally posted by pico pico wrote:

What part is untrue, no insurance or not voted on I need to know if I am insured or not.
 
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What part is untrue - Not being insured  of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Of course the instructors are insured.   Our policy on "Pain compliance" vis-a-vis children is spelt out in Appendix 17 of the Child Protection Policy document, which states:

Aikido Techniques – Pain Compliance Against Joint Locks

 

Never apply locks, throws, techniques or exercises on children which use pain compliance or “against the joints” methods of application.   All clubs should ensure their junior Syllabus is amended where necessary in order to remove any exercise or technique which may be inappropriate for children.   Children’s physiology is different to that of an adult, and all coaches working with children should ensure that they have the necessary knowledge in order to deliver safe sessions.   This knowledge should be kept up to date.


As it stands, it is up to Associations and instructors to interpret this information intelligently and with common-sense until we publish anything different.   The legal test in the event of an instructor being sued for "damaging" a child through aikido will be:  "Was the technique and its application reasonable and appropriate for the age and ability of the child?"
 
 
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I hope this clears things up, while the BAB Executive issues a formal statement on this matter.
 

 



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Thanks but what about this email passed on from Sue Ward
 
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From: Sue Ward 
Sent: 13 August 2010 19:02
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Subject: Reminder re using locks and pain compliance techniques on under 18s

 Hi everyone

 Just a quick email to remind you that under the current BAB Safeguarding Policy the use of locks and pain compliance techniques on/with Under 18s is currently 'prohibited' (see page 54)

I know that some of you have large Associations, spread over wide geographic areas. Some of you have clubs under your 'umbrella'. This might make it more difficult to ensure that a clear message re locks and pain compliance reaches all instructors/helpers/assistants working with under 18s. It's essential that you get this message to ALL your club instructors who work with children and young people.

A 'worst case' scenario is obviously an injured child (or children). But it must also be borne in mind that if an instructor allowed these techniques to be part of an under 18 session - and a claim arose as a result - then the instructor concerned may not be covered by their PI insurance.

The Executive Committee is currently looking at the issue of using locks with children, and I completed my research paper and proposal on this some time ago. It is now with the Coaching Team waiting for their input. However, until such time as any changes are 'ratified' it's essential that everyone operates within the policy guidelines.

 

So get the message out there -- refer to page 54 Appendix 17 of the policy -- no pain compliance or against the joint locks.

I am very happy to field any questions that you or your instructors may have re this.

Many thanks for your help - and have a great weekend.

Regards

 Sue

I am still somewhat worried until I see an email from the BAB


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Hi All
 
After the BAB Executive I have been asked to contact update the Child Protection Policy Appendix 17 to say the following:
 

Application of Aikido Techniques – When Teaching Children

 

When applying locks, throws, other techniques or exercises on children and young persons care is to be taken to ensure that any such applications are used only in a way as would be considered reasonable and appropriate to the age, stature and ability of the child upon whom the application relates.  ‘Against the joint’ techniques or the use and inappropriate application of ‘pain’ to achieve compliance is to be avoided.  

 

All clubs should ensure their Junior Syllabus is amended where necessary to moderate any exercise, technique or other application which may be inappropriate for the child or children’s class in question.   A Child’s physiology is different to that of an adult, and all coaches working with children should ensure that they have the necessary knowledge in order to deliver safe sessions. The BAB will publish guidelines in the Coaching Handbook..

 

                        [23 – October 2010 -  Revision to be reported to the Board on 9th Nov 2010 ]

 

I am sure this revised statement will help everyone feel much happier.
 
 
 
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