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Jamieg 
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 Posted: 11 Nov 2008 at 12:14pm |
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Does anyone think it would be a good opportunity for all the Cild Protection personnel within the BAB to meet at some point - not just association CPOs and no other (politcal or other) personnel - to discuss the issues raised in the Forum? Possibly to resolve disagreements and come up with a comprehensive all inclusive CP policy?
Just a thought!
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wendyw
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Posted: 03 Dec 2008 at 1:01pm |
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just to be devils advocate, sometimes adults need protection. some years ago I had my wrist broken by a frustrated 16yr old.
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Sue Ward
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Posted: 11 Dec 2008 at 10:58am |
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Sorry to hear about your injury - sounds painful. The BAB safeguarding policy is also there to 'protect' adults too. There is plenty of information concerning how NOT to put yourself in risky situations that could put you in a vulnerable position.
This includes things like changing rooms, transporting children, administering first aid, late collection by parents etc. The sports coach UK safeguarding workshop will also contain lots of advice and information too - and I would strongly recommend this course.
Your story also illustrates one of the risks of adults and children training together. I'm not saying that this shouldn't be allowed - just saying that (as with most things in life) it comes with risks attached and these must be assessed on a 'class by class' basis. I also appreciate that in this instance it wasn't a child that got injured. But that risk also exists too.
I think the new BAB Safeguarding policy may well contain further advice on how to risk asssess mixed training sessions.
All best
sue
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Sue Ward
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Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 10:36am |
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Hi - you'll be pleased to hear that this does happen to some degree. I'm not quite sure how things will work moving forward (we are in a transitional stage at the moment whilst our new Independent Safeguarding Officer audits our policies and procedures) - but historically CPOs have met face to face at least once a year and have a well established email network. In many instances CPOs are also instructors and/or Heads of Assn so we have had (in my opinion) a very good breadth of representation at these meetings.
More recently all Heads of Assn were invited to meet with the BAB Executive, representatives from the Child Protection in Sport Unit and our insurers to discuss how safeguarding should/must be implemented to ensure we remain compliant with legislation and insurance. I know you might say that these are 'political or other' people-- but with safeguarding we have to ensure that we take guidance from those who set, maintain and monitor safeguarding standards. There's no point in BAB members getting together and 'deciding' what we want if it is not acceptable to our insurers (and that probably also means it is not acceptable to the Child Protection in Sport Unit either).
As you know, the BAB is in many ways a 'club of clubs' - with each Assn remaining more or less autonomous. So for this reason the BAB Exec has to rely on nomiated people to represent each Assn's views. So the CPO would normally represent the views of the CWOs and instructors etc. I guess any other method just makes things too cumbersome. Under the present set up I guess the way to ensure your views are heard is to use the system of representation (which would usually be via the CPO or BAB Rep).
Finally, the BAB's ISO is aware of these forum pages and I am sure she will be taking all the posts into account when she prepares our new policy documents. So in the absence of a formal. face to face, discussion meeting - maybe post some specific thoughts on this forum? That we we also save on time and travel costs too!
All best
Sue Ward
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SteveBillett
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Posted: 12 Dec 2008 at 5:19pm |
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Hi Sue
Great Answer as usual, But it would be nice to see the ISO also making some comments here, just to know she does read this?
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Sue Ward
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Posted: 15 Dec 2008 at 12:56pm |
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Hi Steve - I'm sure Barbara does read the forum pages -- if only to keep an eye on the replies I post. I would imagine Barbara would contribute pretty quickly if something needed correcting!!
It's probably more cost effective for the BAB if I respond - and Barbara just monitors the accuracy of my replies.
But of course I will let her know about your post -- and perhaps she may be able to post a quick update on what's happening re the 'big picture' with BAB Safeguarding.
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Take care - and if we don't speak before have a happy and peaceful festive season.
all best
Sue
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